May 4, 2026

#189 Adam Ondra — The Appeal Of Difficulty, Transferring Board Training to Rock, and Flashing 8C+/V16?

#189 Adam Ondra — The Appeal Of Difficulty, Transferring Board Training to Rock, and Flashing 8C+/V16?

Adam Ondra is the world’s best climber. In 2017 he made the first ascent of the world’s first 9c / 5.15d, in 2025 he climbed Soudain Seul V17, and in the past few months he’s flashed 4 V15s.

This week he joins us to discuss his recent bouldering spree, his future plans, and what it takes to push climbing’s limits.

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  • The ethics of glued holds and manufactured climbs
  • Do competitions actually test who’s the best climber?
  • Skipping bolts to improve performance


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00:00 - Intro

10:29 - Adam's Recent Bouldering Spree

36:12 - Support From Patreon

42:31 - What Draws Adam To A Climb?

51:20 - Pushing The Limits Of Climbing

01:11:29 - How To Go From Good To Great