Unique Podcase in Climbing

I generally dont love bro-ey podcasts or ones where there’s a bunch of ppl overtalking each other. And this podcast fits my taste for in-depth tete-a-tete conversations with real depth. The content is additionally unconventional. Much more nuanced than the run of the mill climbing podcast. Previous topics have included taboos like the use of oral drugs like stimulants and injectables - which is neat if scary. Intermediate (v5-8) climbers are also looking for more nuanced talk about techniques which the hosts will discuss (sloper climbing and hip positioning for example). Super enjoy!